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The Quantum Dynamics of Life

Space is built out of its contents - Roger Y. Gouin -


The 'Ghost Head Nebula' is one of a chain of star-forming regions in the Large Magellanic Cloud.
Image: European Space Agency.

According to Roger Gouin, life manifests in the physical through quantum processes, but current theory and classical quantum formalism cannot account for the complex processes that determine the growth and operation of organisms. The Quantum Dynamics of Life is a collection of essays written by Gouin and Amrit Sorli. A few of Amrit's articles on this site are linked below.

The aim of 'Quantum Dynamics' is to bridge the large gap between today's physics and a real understanding of the universe, which includes of course that-which-cannot-be-seen and that which we can't measure - life. The essays discuss time, the mind and conscious as well as rational experience, the assumptions of general relativity and Active Galactic Nuclei as Spacial Sink-Source Systems that continuously re-cycle both space and matter.

In the second essay, "Space and the Basis of Life" Gouin, starting from his specialty which is biology, shows how the cell as a common manifestation of life is organized in a complex way that defies purely physical analysis. And the basis for cellular organization and duplication is not DNA, as we might assume. Before developing DNA as a central molecule, cells duplicated with the help of a biological supramolecule called the centriole. He also introduces the concept of manipulation of the geometry of space by matter, particularly living matter. These concepts are further explained and expanded upon in an Annex to Quantum Dynamics, which makes for lighter reading as the concepts are introduced in dialogue form and garnished with illustrations to help those of us who are conceptually impaired.

Ben Connell, who after Roger Gouin's death in 2004 has put all that research on a website, says that Roger has "expanded his ideas into developmental biology and cell science since this book and appendix was written" and that these more up-to-date papers are available on Ben's website. So anyone interested in Gouin's work should definitely check out this web site (www.rogerygouin.org) which links many articles as well as Gouin's book-length thesis 'On the Origin of Space'. The work of Gouin goes far beyond the approach from the side of biology:

"There is a basic whole to my work, and this is summarized in the statement:

*******Space is built out of its contents*******

I attempt to prove that fact in particle physics, in quantum mechanics, in astrophysics, in Life and in Computer Science. This is the thrust of my thesis.

So anybody looking at only one part may misunderstand, or not understand at all. I cannot help that fact. The rewrite into articles helps, but the difficulty is still there.

The statement above is so UNINTUITIVE that even mathematicians do not understand it, and this because math cannot exist in a world where space is built by its contents. Math can only be a rough tool since it deals with separated things, as classical mechanics did. Only our quantum mind can process that information. This is why I wrote the equivalent of 20+ articles on the matter. ."

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Quoting from the preface of The Quantum Dynamics of Life, we can see where Gouin and Sorli are headed:

The scientific picture of the world is continuously improving with new discoveries. In this small bok we will see that an important discovery is also the understanding of how the mind influences the direct experience of reality. The mind is an active part of any experience. The information of an experiment enters the senses, such as sight, gets elaborated by the mind, and then experience occurs. When becoming aware of the mind's elaboration, a new picture of the universe and life arises: The universe is a timeless self-renewing system in which the development of life is a fundamental part.

We have been told that the root of scientific knowledge must have a mathematical form. This was the mantra of "logical positivism" in the 20th century, reflecting a pan-mathematical view of Science, and a philosophy that all students of the physical sciences implicitly follow through the teachings they receive. This philosophical road has reached a wide gap recently by uncovering that reality in general cannot be represented through mathematics, nor can we get to the true base of reality through it. Some call this gap the "end of Science", but it is only the end of that philosophy. Human rational understanding has only limited tools at its disposal, and mathematics is just one of them.

With this in the background, we go back to the forms of experience we are physically going through, and build a picture of reality out of the scientific knowledge acquired in the last centuries, and especially in the 20th. This picture is not the one found in present scholastic teachings, as such are limited by mathematics; it is one that attempts to go beyond the gap, while yet retaining the scientific method that allowed the great advances made earlier.

The Quantum Dynamics of Life

Annex to Quantum Dynamics

Website of Roger Gouin's works compiled by his friend Ben Connell

And here is a page where Roger Gouin describes the history of his thesis

Articles by Amrit Sorli previously published on this site:

A-Temporal Gravitation

Sub-atomic particles in a-temporal space

Quantized Space: Evolution in a Universe of Frequency

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An email that roger sent  
Dear Amrit and Ben, 
I can't believe it. Someone last month has proved my theory
about leptonic space manifolds in Life!!!  Look at Fig. 1 and 2 in the files
attached. You will see in Fig. 1 a cell being cut while going through mitosis
gives 2 cells in the middle of mitosis, but with only one spindle pole.  
Then in Fig. 2, each half cell continues the mitosis, with
the actin furrow (ring) forming splitting the cell into two bubbles. I said 5
years ago in my thesis that actin sensed the intersection of perpendicular
leptonic space manifolds . Here the two space manifolds are artificially cut up
and the corresponding microtubules are split and result in separate bubbles
showing the two manifold intersection with ordinary space.  
My first proof of quantum space built by its contents was
the Hubble effect in the Solar system. I only needed 2 proofs since the fields
of Astrophysics and Life are obviously unrelated. (Einstein needed 3 proofs
because they were all in the sky...:-) 
Roger Gouin

 figure 1.

 figure 2.

PS the above pictures are taken from paper submitted to frontier perspectives journal unpublished before he passed,



Robert Kerr says (by email):

It is ridiculous to treat space as being empty. All of the properties of cosmic objects are explicable by the reaction of mass to pressure.

The pressure of space is temperature. The chaotic motion of the overtly undetectable mass particles regenerativly organizes them around random concentrations increasing concentration density. This action is confirmed by the sphericity of cosmic entities. The limit of mass containment results in a nova explosion which releases pressure and radiates the internal mass. This is the life cycle of the the universe. Regeneration of mass concentration to explosive diffusion.

Regenerative concentration explains the illusion of attractive force action. Its action is consistent with all universal entities and their behavior.

thank you robert, and i will guide you to rogers paper on this very subject,


'On the Origin of Space'

Part 2: A Many-Hyperspheres Model of the Universe

Another comment by Robert Kerr (by email):

The essay offered by Ben Connell was based on a constant maximum light velocity.

Light is a wave which requires a transmitting medium. The medium is photon fluid. Photon fluid pressure is temperature. Wave action delivers different fluid energy waves at the same velocity.

Wave frequency varies with wave particle impulse. Wave action transpires when the media energy equals wave impulse. The resistance of the media is established by fluid pressure. Fluid pressure is temperature. Hence the media resistance must vary with fluid temperature. Wave velocity is therefore only limited by media pressure which establishes particulate photon density. Hence local wave velocity is only locally constant and must exceed local transmission velocity at lesser media density.

There is no basis for the assumption of a maximum constant light velocity. Light velocity is much greater at the lower temperatures of surrounding space.

the whole thing about Rogers works is it describes the entire of reality on different levels like a whole, one object, and that all the components in that reality, from atoms/molecules/living things/planets/solar systems/galaxies are all linked sub components of that 1 object

so roger did a top down version, took the whole first then figured out how the parts function but he went back and forth, by looking at life he found the processes that operate within that whole 'computation' and applied it to the mechanics of the whole using the language of our sciences and scholars to describe the vision he saw,

to view roger work a common sense way is to not look at the parts but to look at the method used to get to the conclusions he did,

like Einstein said in not so many words, you cant solve the problem from the place that it was created, but you can hypothesize a new place to view the entirety from as roger has, and then check that hypothesis against observed data,

this is common sense, and puts creative thought back into a science shackled by mathematics and observation with no fundamental advancement in theory,

and Robert I still do not understand wat your point is if you could explain it more I’d be pleased to reply

‘many realities’

“Everetts many realities as an evolving quantum program ie you”,

an everyday interpretation for those of us who are conceptually impaired

if we took say a simple protein, it has for example, 4 conformational shapes (arrangements in structure it could be) and the protein will fold to the lowest energy shape it can exist in, but the other 3 shapes/conformations are still available to the protein molecule to exist it,

like prion proteins (though these show drastic shapes changes)

so when the protein reaches its position required in the giant nano-technology project that is life (how it gets to where it is needed is a whole other question) the protein enters its place in the lego set, now the organism can now use the other shapes the protein can form to create the motion of the organism,

life by influencing the possible shapes by shuttling electrons around non-locally can use all the shapes,

this is where many realities comes into it, in this case the many realities is 4 realities, but you can imagine as we start building up the shape and complexity of a life form there is a finite infinite set of conformational shapes the entire organism has

(reason it takes so long to model protein folding in computers is they have to calculate every possible shape of the molecule, where as in affect the molecule exists in all shapes at once depending on its energy level, and does a protein spend 6 months figurin out howto fold itself? No so a simple potein can out compute and super computer on this planet because it has to to fold itself)

so organisms learn to function, like our human body it is built on a cellular level from egg fertilisation upto an entire person/child. The cell /organ processes are already sub systems (subconscious) that function on their own programs, but now baby has to learn to (consciously) move, baby who is in essence a giant molecule like our protein with 4 possible shapes,

so wat does baby do? Baby starts wriggling, induces motion in their limbs and learns to move, when they actually achieve a motion they want to many-realities in there memories remembers that this motion coincided with my ‘desire’ to move and the ‘skill/set of conformational shapes changes’ is remembered,

have you ever noticed that your perception no matter how much you learn or how complex the scene is you are viewing, it doesn’t slow down?

This is because your perception is created out of the same many-reality program that you protein folds itself by

You perceive all the possible shapes of your reality and identify, like a congress of perception wat you observe,

Many realities is the only process in nature able to achieve this amount of data computation, a fact ignored by current biology, just how is life computable with out it?


‘Schrodinger's cat’

is the cat in the box alive or dead, well in actuality the cat's molecules are goin thru their many-reality shape changes inside the box and quite probably the conformation changes of the molecules will be tryin to find a solution from the intent that the cat does not want to be in the box. Scratch scratch,

common sense?

Problem with most people's approach to many-worlds is they don’t see common sense from what they observe, and then give themselves a headache thinking every decision they make somewhere is another universe where they made a different choice, instead of putting a ceiling on many worlds and thinking maybe it's the driving force of the objects and life forms we can observe and that many-worlds exists on a molecular/atomic level to manifest the macro life forms and reality that we see every day,

Common sense?

‘God in science’

Re robert:

the problem is wat do you measure the wave with, how do you know that the same thing that measures the speed of light isn’t changed by the same thing that changes the speed of light?

science wants to label everything, but reality is quite happy existing without us to label it

the big jump scientists need to make with Rogers work/method is that everything is whole, and that any process scientific/life/chemistry/etc is all a part process of that whole, science is not used to this concept, and fights against it because it lets god in the door. i am gona say that science is a religion of no god because who is the scientist to say god/wholeness doesn't exist when the scientist cant even measure his own universe to any accuracy without the use of certain fundamental constants,

then threw string theory the ‘chances/possibilities’ that these 32 constants of nature are the values they are to create life is a 1x10 to 500 probability, that’s a 1 in 1 with 500 zeros after it that it is pure chance that the universe is the way it is to create life, pure fluke or quantum mechanics? Intent or luck?

Science needs to read its own ideas and realize how spiritual science really is,

“steven hawking eats his own hat and says the universe is
the way it is to make wat is ‘now’”

any one notice an under current?

Common sense?

PS and that is takin god as all that is, who we all are together combined, not some whote bearded old guy sat on a fancy thrown somewhere behind his pearlt gates.

wake up read wat science says



albert einstein,

all but a stain,

many realities,

'hugh' are 'everett'-ernal

Space is built out of its contents - Roger Y. Gouin -

According to Roger Gouin, life manifests in the physical through quantum processes, but current theory and classical quantum formalism cannot account for the complex processes that determine the growth and operation of organisms. The Quantum Dynamics of Life is a collection of essays written by Gouin and Amrit Sorli. A few of Amrit's articles on this site are linked below. The aim of 'Quantum Dynamics' is to bridge the large gap between today's physics and a real understanding of the universe, which includes of course that-which-cannot-be-seen...

In my book "A Flower for Einstein" the "flower" is an equation:

h = 2 pi r m c'

in which r is the radius of an H atom, m is the mass of an electron, and c' is its velocity in its orbit which is 2 pi r cm long.

dr. Lebau

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What Big Bang’

Big Bang is already dead! The unheralded "Galileo of the 20th
century", Halton
Arp, has proven that the universe is not expanding. The Big
Bang theory is based on a misinterpretation of redshift. The redshift
of a distant galaxy is measured in the light coming from that galaxy. Lines in
the spectrum of that galaxy show a shift toward the red compared with the same
lines from our Sun. Arp discovered that high and low redshift objects
are sometimes connected by a bridge or jet of matter.

redshift cannot be a measure of distance. Most of the redshift
is intrinsic to the object. But there is more: Arp found that the intrinsic
redshift of a quasar or galaxy took discrete values, which decreased with
distance from a central active galaxy. In Arp’s new view of the cosmos,
active galaxies "give birth" to high redshift quasars and companion
galaxies. Redshift becomes a measure of the relative
ages of nearby quasars and galaxies, not their distance.
As a quasar or galaxy ages, the redshift decreases in discrete steps, or quanta.

The huge puzzle for astrophysicists is why a galaxy should exhibit an atomic
phenomenon. So we turn to particle physics. This difficulty highlights the fact
that quantum "mechanics" applied to atoms is a theory without physical
reality. The weirdness of quantum theory has been attributed to the
subatomic scale to which it applies.

now that we have quantum effects in something the size of a galaxy, this
convenient nonsense is exposed. (see
r.gouins paper appendix B below).
If Arp is right many
experts are going to look very silly. His discovery sounded the alarm in some
halls of Academe and since nobody likes a loud noise - particularly if they are
asleep - the knee-jerk response was to attack the guy with his finger on the
alarm button.

telescope time was denied, papers rejected, and he was forced to leave the US to
pursue his work.

of Quasar Redshifts
Appendix B to Part 2: A
Many-Hyperspheres Model of the Universe


acting as giant atoms basically, quantum affects

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'on the subject of
spirituality/holographic universe'

(and roger applied his
science in a purely scientific way was me who took it the step he never and
applied it to spirituality)

earth, air, fire, water,
spirit and how they are the basis of reality, old terms for wat you see now


well me being a computational
engineer, ie how to create the 3D affects
and motions of particles in
life and cosmology from my studies of life and life

if you wanted to create a
computer program
like a 3D shoot em up game.
the things you would
have to program to give a
realistic simulation
of reality are

earth --> solid (solid
objects in the game)
water --> liquid (fluid
flowing in the game)
air --> gas (to model air
flow in the game)
fire --> heat (to model
how heat affects earth/water/air, melting/boiling/expansion)

spirit --> the process
that integrates all the 'mechanical' processes to create an ordered
and 'realistic' simulation on
the computer/universe.

and the 'spirit' process is
driven by many-realities,

an anology,

our computers are say a
pentium 4 processor, now bear with me cause this is
gona get slightly technical

a intel pentium chip is
64-bit wide, it means it can process 64 single 'bits'
at once, it can make 64
calculations at once. this means that say if a computer
program is 640 bits the
pentium chip would take

640/64 = 10

would take 10 steps or clock
cycles to run this 640 bits,

now many realities is a
process that ca take all 640 bits at once,
and if the program is 1264
bits, many realities would operate
at 1264 bits wide program,

to put it simply no matter
how big the program is many realities
processes the program in one
step (finite infinite), like how you see your computer slow down
when it has a lot of data to
process many realities does it all in one
step no matter how big,

this is how when a bus is
coming towards you and you might be stood in the road
you act in an instant
instinctively, snap blam move,

it doesn't take you longer to
react if there’s like 5000 people around you all with
different coloured funny hats
on, its always instant and this is the beauty of life
and the universe, it operates
out of time no matter how much information you
have to process,

you always act instantly, if
to save your own life or that of someone elses,

this is the power of your
subconscious and the universe, and why no computer
can touch it,

"computers are only a
poor mimic of wat we already are"

and if you have heard of
quantum computing this is the holy grail, to create
computers that can do
this, not the super computers you see that predict weather that are the size of
a house, (incidentally they create these super computers by say takin 1000's of
pentium chips and running them in parallel say 10,000 pentium chips in parallel
giving 640,000 bits, but its still restricted to how many chips hence the size
the computers) you have far more power than these computers because you run a
different software and program, lifes program,

a no time program,

a beautiful program of
infinite possibilities, only limited by the amount
you learn, does your mind
slow down the more you learn no,

many realities and composite
quantum systems

written by mr everett,
perfected by roger gouin

hope you get my pile of snow,

welcome to a
holographic/simulation universe, and hopefully not a 3D shoot em up much longer

this is the new
science Galileo say and the pope rejected


yours ben
THE WORKS: by roger
Introduction: A
Centuries-old Line of Thoughts in Physics
-----------------------Appendices to the Introduction
[1] Rational vs.
Conscious Experience in Time and Space Matters
(Accepted by Frontier Perspectives, final version to
appear in Vol. 13, No. 1)
[1A] A History of this
-----------------------MONADIC SPACES
[2] The Discrete,
the Continuum and Everett's Many-Realities (Part 10)
[3] The Speed of
Light, an Absolute Base for a Relational Reality (Part 11)
[4] The Concept of
Monadic Spaces (Part 12)
-----------------------QUANTUM PHYSICS
[5] Quantum
Mechanics and Monadic Spaces (Part 13)
[6] Composite
Quantum Systems - Understanding the Many-Realities Idea (Part 15)
[7] Quantum
Physics, an Alternate Picture (Part 16)
-----------------------Appendix to QUANTUM PHYSICS
[7A] Marked-up Copy
of the True Quantum Theory (TQT) Paper by A. Zeilinger
with Referenced Comments
(Part 15A) (Preliminary html)
-----------------------PARTICLE PHYSICS
[8] The Standard
Model and Monadic Spaces (Part 14)
[9] A Continually
Self-Renewing Universe (submitted as Part 1)
[10] A Many-Hyperspheres
Model of the Universe (submitted as Part 2)
[10A] Quantization
of Quasar Redshifts (Appendix B to the above article)
[11] The Case of
the Missing Equation (Part 17)
[12] A Potential
Dual-Layer State for Space in the Podkletnov Effects (Part 18)
-----------------------Appendix to ASTROPHYSICS
[12A] An
Astrophysical Origin to Anomalous Spacecraft Accelerations (submitted
to FP) -
see the comments
on earlier submittal to the Plantary and Space Science Journal )
------------------------LIFE SCIENCES
[13] Space and the
Basis of Life (submitted as Part 3)
[13A] Non-Local
(Holistic) Life - Physical Approaches (submitted as
Part 3A)
[13B] Non-Local
(Holistic) Life - Recent Evidence (submitted as Part
[14] Quantum
Conformational Dynamics (Part 4)
[15] Dialogues
Concerning a Third New Science - Day 1 (Part 5)
[16] The Power of
Quantum Dynamical Life (Part 6)
[17] Dialogues
Concerning a Third New Science - Day 2 (Part 7)
------------------------Appendix to LIFE SCIENCES
[18A] Non-Local
(Holistic) Life - A Survey - Basic Cell Data (Part 20A)
[18B] Non-Local
(Holistic) Life - A Survey - Additional Cell Facts (Part 20B)
[18C] Non-Local
(Holistic) Life - A Survey - Relations Between Cells (Part 20C)
[18D] Non-Local
(Holistic) Life - A Survey - Hypotheses (Part 20D)
------------------------COGNITIVE SCIENCE
[19A] Mind over
Machine - The Basics (Part 8A)
[19B] Mind over
Machine - Higher Functions (Part 8B)
[20] Dialogues
Concerning a Third New Science - Day 3 (Part 9)
------------------------DEVELOPMENTAL BIOLOGY
[21A] Quantum
Spatial Development - The Drosophila Oocyte (Part 3C)
[21B] Quantum
Spatial Development - The Drosophila Embryo (Part 3D)
[21C] Quantum
Spatial Development - Cell Proliferation (Part 3E)
[21D] Quantum
Spatial Development - Cell Differentiation (Part 3F)
------------------------COMPUTER SCIENCE
[22] Nondeterministic
Solution of Satisfiability Problems (Part 19)
[23] The Need to Develop
a Non-Cantorian Set Theory (Part 21) (Preliminary
[24] Space Generation
& Geometric Algebra (Part 22) (Preliminary)
------------------------PHILOSOPHY OF SCIENCE
Conclusion (Old
conclusion of the study, giving its philosophical context) ]

Roger Gouin says (in Mind over Machine - Higher Functions)

“Free Will”
Being self-aware, a mind would be then able to choose from such multiple realities from the consideration of the whole, in an extended computation way, thereby expressing a “free will,” something impossible in any classical system, and thus in classical computers, as Laplace centuries ago pointed out. (P. S. Laplace had a universal determining equation in mind, the first “Theory of Everything,” in the early 19th century.) 20th century “deterministic chaos” brings nothing more here, as this is still a classical separated process. Free will would be something that would not be left to chance either, as present quantum theory assumes, since this theory uses a statistical formalism and does not include composite quantum systems, with their ability to self-observe.

Perhaps it is worth to note, as becomes clear from a paper (The Free Will Theorem) sent by Hal Puthoff, that even mainstream physics seems to be slowly moving towards a recognition of the reality of free will, not only for intelligent life but even for particles which, apparently, are seen as endowed with life-like qualities.

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